Read the primary source rather than the write-up and the two do not agree, so here is what is actually in it.
Genuine plateaus happen too, and the mechanism is metabolic adaptation plus a smaller body. A body 20kg lighter needs meaningfully fewer calories at rest and less to move, so the deficit that produced the first phase is arithmetically smaller now. The options are the honest ones — increase the deficit slightly, increase activity, or accept the new plateau — and escalating the dose is only one of them.
Where I think it is weakest: the comparator does most of the work in how this gets reported, and it is not the comparator most people think they are citing.
What I am trying to establish is how to distinguish a genuine plateau from measurement noise and creeping intake, before changing anything. I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.
Figures above are from the primary publication rather than the press summary. If a number here disagrees with one you have, post yours and we will work out which of us is reading a secondary source.
marco_milano said:Genuine plateaus happen too, and the mechanism is metabolic adaptation plus a smaller body.
Plateau breaking story with a stall: I stalled at 203 lbs for 6 weeks. Tried everything — calorie cycling, increased exercise, more water. Nothing worked.
What finally broke the plateau: increasing protein to 150g/day. Lost 9 lbs in the next 2 weeks. Plateaus are temporary — they always break if you stay consistent.
marco_milano said:Genuine plateaus happen too, and the mechanism is metabolic adaptation plus a smaller body.
This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. The "it is your intake" reflex here gets tiring. Some people genuinely stop responding at a dose that worked, and telling them to track harder when they have already tracked is how people stop posting.
Ask again with the specifics and you will get a better answer than this one.
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Shop Reference StandardsThis one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. Most reported plateaus are not plateaus. Weight is a noisy signal — daily variation of one to two kilograms from glycogen, sodium and gut contents — so a fortnight of flat readings is well inside the noise band. Before concluding anything, look at a rolling weekly average over at least four weeks and at a tape measure, because recomposition shows up in circumference before it shows up in weight. Then track intake honestly for a week: appetite suppression fades unevenly, and intake creeping back up is the single commonest cause.
Dr.SleepRoch said:Plateau breaking story with a stall: I stalled at 203 lbs for 6 weeks.
Adding a me-too, because a thread of one person's experience is not much use.
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