Putting this up now rather than when I am certain, because by then it will not help anybody.
Reading about receptor desensitisation and trying to work out which of the effects adapt over time and which do not, because people clearly experience both.
The adaptation point cuts both ways: tachyphylaxis to gastric emptying is why tolerability improves, and it is also why people who were relying on physical fullness feel the effect fade while the appetite effect is still working.
What to check: Numbers worth memorising for this class: Tmax one to three days for the weekly peptides, terminal half-life about a week for semaglutide and about five days for tirzepatide, steady state at four to five half-lives, subcutaneous bioavailability high enough that site choice is irrelevant.
If your experience contradicts this, say so in the thread — I would rather be corrected here than have people act on a warning that does not hold.
BenResearch_OR said:Reading about receptor desensitisation and trying to work out which of the effects adapt over time and which do not, because people clearly experience…
PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing. Semaglutide:
- Tmax: 24-72 hours post-injection
- T½: ~168 hours (7 days) — enables weekly dosing
- Steady state: reached at 4-5 weeks
- Bioavailability (SubQ): ~89%
- Volume of distribution: ~12.5L (primarily plasma)
The albumin binding (>99%) is the key pharmacological innovation — creating a sustained-release effect from a single injection. Previous GLP-1 agonists (exenatide) required BID dosing due to rapid clearance.
BenResearch_OR said:Reading about receptor desensitisation and trying to work out which of the effects adapt over time and which do not, because people clearly experience…
Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. The pharmacokinetics explain nearly every practical question asked here. Albumin binding above 99% slows clearance enough to make weekly dosing possible; a terminal half-life near a week means four to five weeks to steady state and therefore a four-week titration interval; subcutaneous bioavailability around 89% means injection site barely matters. Those three facts answer most timing questions before they are asked.
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Shop Reference StandardsDr.NutriCornell said:The pharmacokinetics explain nearly every practical question asked here.
Receptor pharmacology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a GLP-1R agonist with a C-18 fatty acid chain that enables albumin binding (>99%), creating a depot effect with a ~168-hour half-life enabling weekly dosing[1].
Tirzepatide is a dual GIP/GLP-1R agonist with higher GIP affinity (5:1 GIP:GLP-1 potency ratio). The GIP component may enhance beta-cell function and adipocyte lipid metabolism beyond what GLP-1 alone achieves.
For the pharmacology, the pharmacology explains the clinical differences between these agents.
[1] Lau J, et al. J Med Chem. 2015;58(18):7370-7380.
julia.endo said:PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing.
Can confirm. Same sequence, different timescale. Nothing to add that would improve it.