Dr.AddMedPHL said:There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.
Right, and the exception is worth naming rather than left implied, because the exception is where people get into trouble.
Ask again with the specifics and you will get a better answer than this one.
pat_auckland said:Correct, and worth adding that it is reversible.
Thank you — that is the clearest version of this I have read, and I have read a lot of them.
Dr.AddMedPHL said:There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.
This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. The counter-case has not been addressed. Somebody upthread described the situation that does not fit, and the thread moved on rather than engaging with it, which is the failure mode this board is supposed to avoid.
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View ResultsAdding the numbers, since they settle part of this. The boring version of this is the one that works, and the boring version is: measure a baseline, change one variable, wait, measure again under the same conditions. Nobody wants that answer and it is still the answer.
Moderator note: good thread. Keeping it here rather than moving it, because the question is general enough to be useful. Carry on.