BethLabQueen said:SUSTAIN-6 was the first CVOT to show cardiovascular benefit with semaglutide, relevant to cardiovascular risk.
I read this differently from BethLabQueen, on substance rather than tone. The "earlier than weight loss explains" argument is weaker than this thread makes it sound. Blood pressure and inflammatory markers move fast and are downstream of early weight loss, so the mechanism is not as cleanly separable as the summaries imply.
Happy to go further on any of that.
TomFromTexas said:Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.
CRP reduction on cardiovascular risk — this is the lab result that excites me most:
Baseline hsCRP: 7.0 mg/L (high cardiovascular risk)
Month 6 hsCRP: 2.5 mg/L (moderate risk)
Month 12 hsCRP: 0.6 mg/L (low risk)
This level of inflammatory marker reduction is comparable to what you'd see with statin therapy. Combined with the weight loss, my 10-year ASCVD risk score dropped from 14% to 5%. My cardiologist is genuinely impressed.
julia.endo said:The "earlier than weight loss explains" argument is weaker than this thread makes it sound.
julia.endo said:...cardiovascular risk is just another fad...
I understand the skepticism — we've all seen "miracle" weight loss solutions come and go. But consider what makes GLP-1 agonists different:
- Phase 3 RCTs with thousands of participants (not 20-person pilot studies)
- Published in NEJM, JAMA, Lancet (not press releases)
- Replicated across multiple independent research groups
- Proven cardiovascular and renal benefits beyond weight loss
- Biological mechanism fully characterized at the receptor level
This isn't a fad — it's a new drug class supported by the highest level of clinical evidence. The comparison to past fads is understandable but inappropriate.
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Browse GL BiochemFollowing on from wei_SG — and this may be the naive question:
What did you change at the same time, and can you separate the two now?
Dr.NateNeph said:julia.endo said: ...cardiovascular risk is just another fad...
Positive "side effect" of cardiovascular risk: my blood pressure dropped so much that I'm now off metoprolol entirely! My cardiologist is thrilled.
If you're on BP meds and losing weight on a GLP-1, monitor your BP at home regularly. Hypotension symptoms (dizziness, lightheadedness when standing) mean your BP meds may need reduction. Don't wait for your next scheduled appointment — call your doctor.