PharmD_Rodriguez said:The intervention that works is boring and well evidenced: resistance training two to three times a week at a genuine effort, protein at 1.4 to 2.0…
Thank you — that is the clearest version of this I have read, and I have read a lot of them.
Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.
MikeFit_NJ said:...the muscle loss concern with lean mass...
This is a legitimate and well-studied concern. Let me put some numbers on it:
In STEP 1, approximately 39% of weight lost was lean mass. However, the Lundgren 2024 study showed that structured resistance training reduced this to ~25% lean mass loss.
Context matters: at BMI 35+, you're carrying excess lean mass to support the extra weight. Losing some lean mass is expected and not inherently harmful if you maintain adequate muscle function through exercise.
The solution isn't avoiding the medication — it's combining it with proper exercise and protein intake.
MASHdoc_SA said:The GIP arm is doing real work rather than padding the label.
I read this differently from MASHdoc_SA, on substance rather than tone. The "tirzepatide is simply better" summary irritates me. It is better on mean weight loss, and the cardiovascular outcome evidence is far thinner than semaglutide's. If the reason for treating is cardiovascular risk rather than weight, the evidence base points the other way.
Worth separating that from tirzepatide, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.
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Browse GL BiochemMikeFit_NJ said:The honest range is roughly 20 to 40% of total loss as lean mass without deliberate resistance training, and roughly 10 to 20% with it plus adequate…
Physical therapist weighing in on lean mass. I work with bariatric and metabolic patients daily.
The resistance training evidence is critical here:
The Lundgren 2024 JAMA paper[1] showed that structured resistance training preserved 73% more lean mass in GLP-1 patients vs medication alone. When discussing lean mass, we MUST include the exercise component.
My minimum prescription: 3x/week compound movements (squat, deadlift, press, row), progressive overload, 7-10K steps/day, and 1.2-1.6g protein/kg/day.
[1] Lundgren JR, et al. JAMA. 2024;331(1):38-48.