sarah.morrison said:The OASIS programme put 50mg oral in the same territory as 2.4mg injectable — around 15% mean weight loss — but it needed a dose 20 times larger to…
I do not accept that the fasting window is a minor inconvenience. Adherence data on daily orals with timing requirements is consistently worse than weekly injections, and a drug you take imperfectly is a lower dose than the one on the box.
Worth separating that from the trial evidence, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.
Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. A quick sanity check on any figure quoted here: is it mean or median, is it intention-to-treat or completers, and what was the comparator. Three questions, and they resolve most disagreements in these threads.
Dr.PainCLE said:I do not accept that the fasting window is a minor inconvenience.
There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. Relative and absolute effects need reading together. A 20% relative reduction on a high baseline risk is a large absolute benefit; the same relative figure on a low baseline risk is a small one, and press summaries almost always quote the relative number because it is bigger.
Correct me if the detail matters more than I have assumed.
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Browse GL BiochemA narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:
Whether the fasting requirement is as strict in practice as the label implies, and what people actually see when they get it wrong?
OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.
I moved the tablet to the moment I wake up rather than trying to fit it around breakfast, and the difference in the following weeks was obvious. It was a timing problem, not a dose problem.